Spheres Apocrypha: Debilitating Talents

According to the author (Hydronz on the DDS Discord), the 1d6 for removing the dart quickly is intended to stack with the initial bleed, and it will probably be rephrased in the future: "...but removing the dart increases the bleed inflicted by this talent by 1d6."

Yeah, they should probably have caught that in the first pass, but that's why it's nice to have direct access to the authors.

That makes more sense, honestly based on how some of their other content they've had i've started to think there was a general misunderstanding on how bleed worked within the community.

Haemophilic venom suffers from a similar issue. I won't try to type it out all here because this will become a massive post, but the 1st part's wording is odd (aka the way its worded you could interpret it as affecting the bleed debuff when its applied meaning when the poison ends as long as the bleed is still going the damage increase doesn't disappear) and the crit effect runs into extra stacking/timing issues because it happens at a completely different point than the 1st half and doesn't call out if it increases ongoing bleed, it just uses a generic "additional" to describe it.

And in response to the discord/direct access part; I'll never step near that discord again. Got sick of it being full of individuals who regularly tried to push absolutely unbalanced/broken changes in, or would actively...See more fight any call for a re-balance on something because 99% of the time they would let it slip that their character uses it and so fixing the balance on something would make their character less strong. Which in itself isn't so bad until the mods themselves are doing it and specifically would break up any balance discussion they didn't like. Its just a massively self-serving environment.

Hello! (Author Here, doesn't say on my name yet unfortunately)

I completely understand the issues with some of the wording when it comes to the talents associated with bleed damage (and will be fixed as soon as I can).
I thankfully do understand how bleed damage works, but unfortunately didn't communicate my understanding enough with these examples XD

As much as I doubt I can change your mind, the Discord can be a great source to communicate with authors and get things fixed; I've personally not seen any moderators supporting the kind of behaviour you have seen, and, at least personally, the comments that people make on the various playtest are all taken on board, and all with a pinch of salt.
That said, I appreciate your comments; and hopefully we can see you giving the various playtests that are happening at the moment a look to provide your insights too; authors can miss the simple things as well, we look at thousands upon thousands of words, it can only be human to have...See more them jumble together sometimes :)

If you'd like, you can feel free to message me on the Discord, and we can discuss any potential word changes you may have; I have my own already, but it doesn't hurt to get another set of eyes on it!

Laurence's quoted "rephrasing" just...makes the author's lack of understanding even more clear. The only purpose to removing the dart as a swift action is to enable healing the bleed in that same round. So the additional 1d6 bleed damage will never have time to occur.

I feel like spending an entire Full-round action is also incredibly taxing. That said yeah the extra bleed may not come up in certain situations, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it would 'never' occur.
Although, it could probably use a buff now that I look at it 1.5 years later. I'm not going to sit here and say that my work back then is the same quality as it is now, but it's a bit insulting to hear people insinuating that I just simply didn't understand the mechanics of bleed XD, especially in a system as intricate as Pathfinder is.